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Should probably start getting a bit excited about this kid. He's been consistently efficient since getting called up.

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He's only had one really bad game since we acquired him. Just needs to work on his location more.

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Rob Brantly's killing it so far too. Obviously we don't want to get excited like we did over Maybin's September performances, but so far it looks like that was a really good trade.

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I've enjoyed him thus far.
Would love to see him and Eovaldi become decent-very good front end-mid starters. If Eovaldi can master that change-up and get his control going, that'd be huge.

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I love Jacob Turner. We might have a winner here.

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Eovaldi showed great improvement in September, as well.

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I hope that's the last time I ever see Heath Bells fat face in a Marlins uniform.

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yep they've both given fans some reason for optimism. Turner looked great tonight.

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Bell decided he didn't want Turner to get the win tonight. Dunn didn't help much either.

I'd be very content if I never saw any of them in a Marlins uniform ever again.

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We've blown quite a few games for Turner and Eovaldi lately. Both guys have pitched very well.

I also like how I see Turner's velocity getting better considering he was supposed to have a mid 90's fastball.

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Dunn will definitely be back next year; Heath Bell, who knows...

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Hopefully they don't ruin these guys. We've seen guys with tremendous velocity come to this organization only to have it discouraged for more control.

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Such as... ?

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Yeah, I don't think that's true.

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Well, it's the Ricky hypothesis, at least.

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Nolasco's best statistical season = a 1.78 BB/9, 91.2 average FB velocity.
This year, 2.21 BB/9, 90 average FB velocity.

I don't think this is a case of sacrificing velocity for more control, considering Nolasco's strength has always been control.
If anything, he might've become more of a pitch to contact guy because he wasn't putting up good ERA's. His velocity drop mainly began last year and it resulted in more GB's/less HR's. So maybe there's that, but it wasn't for more control.

Nolasco never has put up good results, ERA-wise, with the exception of the 2008 season.

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I thought he was going along the lines of Josh Johnson, in which case that still doesn't add up at all.

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Trader Jack used to say that when it comes in at 98, it goes out at 108. There is something to be said for taking some off your FB, especially if you get better movement on it or better control on it at a little slower speed. Also mixing up the speed of your fastball (or any pitch) will have the hitters confused more. Basically it's called pitching, not just throwing. That said, mixing up the speed of your FB instead of just hurling it as hard as you can every time, will bring the average of it down some. IOW, silly stat.

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I'm with you, Sir Bob, on changing of speeds on the fastball. Bust em hard in and go a little softer away [even just a difference of 3-4 mph] could be a big thing for a lot of pitchers, and something that they don't use.
Same with breaking pitches, too. A lot to be said about speed mixes.

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Trader Jack used to say that when it comes in at 98, it goes out at 108.



I assume you're talking about control of the fastball at higher velocities?

Otherwise, physics disagrees.




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