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[Hotcorner]

MLB's Jonathan Mayo re-ranks the kids after the trade. Top 100 overall prospects in ().

http://mlb.mlb.com/m...=mm_mlb_players

1. Yelich (17)
2. Fernandez (22)
3. Marisnick (35)
4. Nicolino (86)
5. Heaney
6. Hechavarria
7. Cox
8. Ozuna
9. Conley
10. Realmuto
11. Romero
12. Perio
13. Brantly
14. Copeland
15. James
16. Solorzano
17. Mattison
18. Urena
19. Dean
20. Canha

[mystikol87]

So we added the #3, #4, and #6 guys in our system, including 2 top-100 prospects, with that trade.

Also, is that Dean as in PJ Dean??

[Hotcorner]

Austin Dean OF, 4th round pick last year.


Brantly seems like he should be higher than Realmuto at this point, and not sure why Mattison keeps showing up on these lists. Don't think Perio should be that high either. But yeah getting 3, 4, and 6 certainly gives a boost to the system.

[floridafly]

Chad James keeps falling as well.

*cue Beinfest 1st round draft pick joke*

[Piazza31]

Our prospect list sucks. We have old prospects showing power and young guys with no power.

We have SP's who project as 3's or could end up in the bullpen.

We have C's who are SS's, another who has had 6 years to get to AAA.

Not to mention the fact all of our guys supposedly have a "plus glove, but has yet to develop with the bat"

I'm so disappointed. Only one I see as a top top prospect is Fernandez, and he's still raw.

I really hope Yelich develops power, but without it I can't see why he's always rated so high. I don't know what to make of Ozuna at Jupiter.

[squall]

Our prospect list sucks. We have old prospects showing power and young guys with no power.

We have SP's who project as 3's or could end up in the bullpen.

We have C's who are SS's, another who has had 6 years to get to AAA.

Not to mention the fact all of our guys supposedly have a "plus glove, but has yet to develop with the bat"

I'm so disappointed. Only one I see as a top top prospect is Fernandez, and he's still raw.

I really hope Yelich develops power, but without it I can't see why he's always rated so high. I don't know what to make of Ozuna at Jupiter.

Speed and defense. They weren't lying this time. Unfortunately you still need to score runs to wins baseball games.

[Piazza31]

Our prospect list sucks. We have old prospects showing power and young guys with no power.

We have SP's who project as 3's or could end up in the bullpen.

We have C's who are SS's, another who has had 6 years to get to AAA.

Not to mention the fact all of our guys supposedly have a "plus glove, but has yet to develop with the bat"

I'm so disappointed. Only one I see as a top top prospect is Fernandez, and he's still raw.

I really hope Yelich develops power, but without it I can't see why he's always rated so high. I don't know what to make of Ozuna at Jupiter.

Speed and defense. They were lying this time. Unfortunately you still need to score runs to wins baseball games.

But do any of these guys really deserve to e considered a top 40 prospect in all of baseball?

[squall]

Yelich and Fernandez do. Also Perez.

[Hotcorner]

Yelich and Fernandez absolutely do. Yelich is one of the best pure hitters in the minors and he also led the Florida State League in slugging at .519. The homers can still come, as long as he's hitting doubles and triples it's a good sign. He was never supposed to be a masher.

The better prospects have been at the lower levels since they've whiffed on so many guys over the years. After Stanton came up Jax and New Orleans have been mostly barren in terms of top talent. There are guys that could still make it though. Brad Hand was the one I had higher hopes for but he hasn't figured out how to not walk people.

The upcoming season will tell a lot since at some point we should see an outfield of Ozuna-Marisnick-Yelich, along with Fernandez, Realmuto, Cox, Conley, Canha all up in AA Jax where we'll get a better idea if they're 2014 possibilities or not. (Not that success there guarantees anything obviously)

[Erick]

So we added the #3, #4, and #6 guys in our system, including 2 top-100 prospects, with that trade.

Also, is that Dean as in PJ Dean??

+ Henderson "Anderson Perez" Alvarez. Many like his upside and he'd probably be a top-100 prospect if he was still eligible, as well. From most things I've read, scouts seem to think he has more upside than Nicolino, currently a top-100 prospect.

[Erick]

Our prospect list sucks. We have old prospects showing power and young guys with no power.

We have SP's who project as 3's or could end up in the bullpen.

We have C's who are SS's, another who has had 6 years to get to AAA.

Not to mention the fact all of our guys supposedly have a "plus glove, but has yet to develop with the bat"

I'm so disappointed. Only one I see as a top top prospect is Fernandez, and he's still raw.

I really hope Yelich develops power, but without it I can't see why he's always rated so high. I don't know what to make of Ozuna at Jupiter.

Speed and defense. They were lying this time. Unfortunately you still need to score runs to wins baseball games.

But do any of these guys really deserve to e considered a top 40 prospect in all of baseball?

Apparently Yelich, Fernandez and Marisnick are deserving...

[Wild Card]

Any news on where we rank regarding the top farm systems since the deal?

[mystikol87]

Any news on where we rank regarding the top farm systems since the deal?

Considering there are 30 teams, having 3 guys in the top 32 is damn good. Not sure about depth, but good at the top, including 2 elite prospects.

[Wild Card]

Any news on where we rank regarding the top farm systems since the deal?

Considering there are 30 teams, having 3 guys in the top 32 is damn good. Not sure about depth, but good at the top, including 2 elite prospects.

Well, this is why I'm curious where we now rank... Hopefully now we're in the middle of the pack compared to like number 28 before this deal.

[Rydawg]

I think Beinfest and Co. have drafted much better the last three years. The 12' class has alot of promise as the first 5 picks seem to be very promising. Heaney, Romero, Copeland, Dean, and Nola all could end up in the bigs. The 11' class is headlined by Fernandez , but it also includes Conley, Lowell, and Barnes who are having early success in the minors. The 10' class of course has Yelich, but Realmuto, and Brice could also end up in the bigs one day as well as Canha. Of course it's still way too soon to tell how any of these guys will turn out.

Even if you go back to the 09' class you will find some talent there. Of course James is a bust so far, but he is still young and has a strong arm from all accounts. However, there a couple of intriguing propects in that class as well with Hodges, Jensen, Keys, and A J Ramos. I love Jensens power bat, and I think he might even get a shot in 13' to play LF. Ramos was already up with the big squad last season and held his own, and he positivley destoryed minor league hitters. All in all with this influx of young talent from the "big trade" we seem to have a solid farm system once again.

In my opinion the two single most devastating blows to our farm system were the 05' draft where Beinfest missed on all five 1st round picks, and the Cabrera trade which netted us Zero in return. Those two disasters have been hard to overcome.

[DcFishFan]

Chad James keeps falling as well.

*cue Beinfest 1st round draft pick joke*

Yeah, I'm really glad they picked James over Shelby Miller (19th overall, next pick after James) and Mike Trout (2012 ROY, 2012 MVP-runner up, 6 picks after James)

[fanofthefish]

Chad James keeps falling as well.

*cue Beinfest 1st round draft pick joke*

Again a signability pick, the Marlins cheapness is really evident in that 5 of their top 20 weren't developed from within.
Of course its still surprising to see Mattison on a prospect list.

[Entendu101]

It seems like this team's got quite a couple of guys that predict to be middle of the rotation starters. I'm really hoping that Fernandez pans out, because there aren't any other ace-types in our system. Heaney, Nicolino, and Eovaldi, are all 3-4 from what I've seen - with Turner being more of a 2-3.

A rotation of:

Fernandez
Turner
Nicolino
Heaney
Eovaldi

Sounds really really solid potentially. Not taking into account any offseason addition we'd make in the future that could slot at 1 or 2 and push someone out.

[h2r09]

Im really hoping both Turner and Fernandez can both turn into top of the rotation pitchers. Especially Turner, he would be huge for the system. I feel like Fernandez is already a Verlander type cant miss ace. Hopefully they allow him to pitch deeper into games this year. Our development of starting pitchers is horrible because we never let them throw a lot of pitches and when they get to the big leagues 5 innings isnt going to cut it.

[floridafly]

Wow, this trade really did replenish our farm system.

I'd say we must be around the #10 farm system now, if not a bit better.

[Hotcorner]

It seems like this team's got quite a couple of guys that predict to be middle of the rotation starters. I'm really hoping that Fernandez pans out, because there aren't any other ace-types in our system. Heaney, Nicolino, and Eovaldi, are all 3-4 from what I've seen - with Turner being more of a 2-3.

A rotation of:

Fernandez
Turner
Nicolino
Heaney
Eovaldi

Sounds really really solid potentially. Not taking into account any offseason addition we'd make in the future that could slot at 1 or 2 and push someone out.

Yeah and there's also Adam Conley who's been moving through the system next to Fernandez, he's pretty highly thought of. And don't rule out Anderson Hernandez yet, as Erick mentioned some feel he could turn out pretty decent. Then you have the next tier of guys like Lowell, Urena, Hope, etc who could push for a spot down the road. Can never have too much pitching depth in the minors.

[BenderRobot]

Im really hoping both Turner and Fernandez can both turn into top of the rotation pitchers. Especially Turner, he would be huge for the system. I feel like Fernandez is already a Verlander type cant miss ace. Hopefully they allow him to pitch deeper into games this year. Our development of starting pitchers is horrible because we never let them throw a lot of pitches and when they get to the big leagues 5 innings isnt going to cut it.

They're gonna let him pitch more than 5 innings, don't worry. They were just protecting his arm or something to that effect. Innings limit. He'll dominate pitching an average of 6.2/G this season in AA.

[Dr Beinfest]

Can we start them all next season for kicks?

[BenderRobot]

Can we start them all next season for kicks?

20 man rotation?

[Gian-Claude Van Damme]

For comparison's sake, Jason Parks at Baseball Prospectus just ranked our top ten as:

1. Jose Fernandez
2. Christian Yelich
3. Jake Marisnick
4. Justin Nicolino
5. Andrew Heaney
6. Rob Brantly
7. Austin Brice
8. Avery Romer
9. Jacob Realmuto
10. Marcel Ozuna