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[Piazza31]

http://miamiherald.t...es-chatter.html

 

This is as damning  an article as I've seen about him. Nevermind his bottom line budget, but this look into how poorly run the Marlins are from top to bottom and the players feelings towards the owner and trainer is as ugly as I've seen.

 

 

### Four agents told me their players cannot trust that their injuries and rehabilitations will be handled correctly because of lack of confidence in the training staff -- a problem that a former Marlin attributes to Loria’s loyalty to trainer Sean Cunningham.

 

Who do you think the player is? I think it's Hayes or even Ozzie Guillen based on the amount of F bombs, with the language edited a bit to read easier. Maybe it's Lomo too (based on the rehab comments).

[Piazza31]

I think it might be Randy Choate- if I remember his quotes from the Hanley trade (I can't find them) they seem to be from the same person.

[SilverBullet1929]

I dunno about this... in some ways he's way too deep in everyone's business but at the same time can't someone say that Loria is just a hands on owner who cares so much about his team? Its a fault but is it a totally bad fault?

[el penguino]

I dunno about this... in some ways he's way too deep in everyone's business but at the same time can't someone say that Loria is just a hands on owner who cares so much about his team? Its a fault but is it a totally bad fault?

It's a bad fault when he forces the organization to keep employing incompetent personnel (trainers) and forces the people in baseball operations to make moves that hurt the team (signing guys like Buck and Bell).

[louiecastillo1]

This was obviously Justin The Intern.

[mrchainsaw]

Pretty sure he isn't the only owner who sits close to the dugout.

[Mr. Man]

I dunno about this... in some ways he's way too deep in everyone's business but at the same time can't someone say that Loria is just a hands on owner who cares so much about his team? Its a fault but is it a totally bad fault?

Pro baseball down here in South Florida has monster potential. But this organization is run terribly.  And since he is "hands on" he has to bear the brunt of responsibility. It's as simple as that.

[Erick]

I'm really upset that he demoted Brett Hayes. 

[fanofthefish]

Nothing that really hasn't been said before, I certainly have no confidence in the Marlins trainers either, again something that has been said before. Maybe his fixation on 2003 team is the reason Pierre is back!

[BenderRobot]

I certainly have no confidence in the Marlins trainers either

Monday: Player X stubbed his toe, out for Tuesday's game.

Wednesday: Player X's stubbed toe still not fully healed, out til next Monday.

 

Monday: Player X's stubbed toe will require a trip to the DL.

Friday: Player X's stubbed toe appears to be healing just fine.

 

Two Tuesday's later: Player X's stubbed toe requires Tommy John Surgery.

 

 

Seems to be how things go in the trainers room.

[anotherrealfan]

sounds like Shaq when he left the Heat.  Oh yes, I wish the Marlins were run like the Heat and I wish Arison would just dig in to his petty cash and buy the Marlins.

[squall]

Can't buy what's not for sale.

Nothing new really. Just further confirmation.

[el penguino]

The part about Loria trying to give an inspirational speech to the team in Boston made me LOL.

[Mr. Man]

Wow, I just read the acticle and I can't believe that I actually have a worse opinion of Loria now. For the love of God just sell the team. You know it's bad when somebody says you're worse than Jerry Jones. 

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Loria's never going to sell, nor can he be forced out, barring pictures of a dead girl or a live boy in his bed.

 

I do find anything quoting miscellaneous whiners and losers faintly amusing. Oh, my goodness! He looked at us in the dugout!

[BroncoBob27]

Loria's never going to sell, nor can he be forced out, barring pictures of a dead girl or a live boy in his bed.

 

I do find anything quoting miscellaneous whiners and losers faintly amusing. Oh, my goodness! He looked at us in the dugout!

 

I'm not pro FO by any means.  But I gotta agree with ya here.  Add in an agent or two that are disgruntled for whatever reason, plus one agent that believes he knows more than the doctors.  The Miami Herald is apparently on a very anti Loria campaign. Using hearsay and quotes from either ex-players or disgruntled current players is no way to objectively report.  Matter of fact, it's not a report at all.  It's a smear campaign.  I never take these "unnamed sources" quotes very seriously.  As far as I know, the writer is making them up just to "prove" his point.  No matter how much I dislike ownership, I refuse to jump on this and start screaming out, "I told ya so," simply because it is what I want to hear about our ownership.

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Yup, "smear" about sums it up. Some "reporters" seem to think that the Marlins exist for their benefit. Just as some become medical experts whenever an injury doesn't go according to plan, as if there were such a thing.

[poptart]

Yup, "smear" about sums it up. Some "reporters" seem to think that the Marlins exist for their benefit. Just as some become medical experts whenever an injury doesn't go according to plan, as if there were such a thing.

I thought Jeffery banned you from speaking publicly

[Dr Beinfest]

Pretty sure he isn't the only owner who sits close to the dugout.

 

Active owners aren't bad if their regular occupation isn't "dealing art."

[squall]

Pretty sure he isn't the only owner who sits close to the dugout.
 
Active owners aren't bad if their regular occupation isn't "dealing art."

He might be overbearing too. I know a lot of owners sit close to the dugout but I got to watch loria up close last season for a lot of games. He stares down his players when he's upset.

[enterthemadness]

I read the article...kept day dreaming of how  I would run the Marlins...I be so weird...I would literally treat the team like it's a office comedy lol.

 

Then I would threatened to demote the entire team to AAA...not the actual team, but in a MLB video Game.