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[DcFishFan]

http://www.miamihera...if-stadium.html

And somewhere in Miami, a muscle-bound former mayor is face-palming.

[SilverBullet1929]

At this point I applaud Loria Samson and company for the deal they got approved. Any negative articles like this are just more reason to laugh at the politicians who agreed to it.

 

If I need to borrow $20 from a friend and the friend later finds out I was hiding $40 in my back pocket, he's the idiot, not me.

[squall]

At this point I applaud Loria Samson and company for the deal they got approved. Any negative articles like this are just more reason to laugh at the politicians who agreed to it.
 
If I need to borrow $20 from a friend and the friend later finds out I was hiding $40 in my back pocket, he's the idiot, not me.

What if you needed 60? Also, that makes you a dick.

[mystikol87]

At this point I applaud Loria Samson and company for the deal they got approved. Any negative articles like this are just more reason to laugh at the politicians who agreed to it.

If I need to borrow $20 from a friend and the friend later finds out I was hiding $40 in my back pocket, he's the idiot, not me.

Actually, you're a dick for misleading your friend.

But politicians aren't friends, so the analogy is irrelevant anyway.

This is a dumb article, as per usual.

[Dr Beinfest]

Yeah, you're a dick.

[fauowls44]

I don't see a problem with this.  Having extra money that can be used in the future towards the upkeep of the stadium is a good thing.  In theory, it prevents the team from going back to the city 10 years from now and saying it needs help paying for a new scoreboard or something. 

[poptart]

I don't see a problem with this.  Having extra money that can be used in the future towards the upkeep of the stadium is a good thing.  In theory, it prevents the team from going back to the city 10 years from now and saying it needs help paying for a new scoreboard or something. 

the problem with this is the money is not going to be used like this. I'll be shocked if it goes back into the team at all, really.

[LordMagnus]

Yep there will never be any consequences for lying and misleading people.

[SilverBullet1929]

Yep there will never be any consequences for lying and misleading people.

True, so its up to the policiticans to cover all their bases before agreeing to something that they'll regret later. This isn't Loria's fault.

 

And yeah I'm a dick, but that's beside the point.

[pollyvonwog]

The new PR firm has its work ahead of them

[Dr Beinfest]

I bet Loria had the civil engineers break every code in the book to save a few bucks. 

[DcFishFan]

I bet Loria had the civil engineers break every code in the book to save a few bucks. 

This.

As if I needed another reason not to go back to that stadium.

[poptart]

I bet Loria had the civil engineers break every code in the book to save a few bucks. 

This.

As if I needed another reason not to go back to that stadium.

speaking of how great the stadium is...

saw this on another forum the other day:

the Jackie Robinson memorial 42 in the outfield is like a sticker or something that's peeling off

[Dr Beinfest]

That doesn't look like it's peeling off, just looks like it was made of folded tape and blue paint and a glossy finish.

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The politicians demanded cost certainty, they got it. The Marlins were and are on the hook for 100% of any cost overruns, of course they get the benefit of any cost underruns.

 

Just another cheap-shot article trying to make the Marlins look like the bad guys. One that shouldn't even have been written until all of the contracts are fully settled, maybe 3 or 4 months from now.

[Dr Beinfest]

The Marlins are the bad guys, though. 

[BroncoBob27]

Gonna be a lot more articles like this in the future.  Public opinion on ownership is way down so bashing them sells papers.  Had the team at least made the playoffs, then the early 2012 pre-season love fest would continue and the chest thumpers would still be thumping.  People that know how to think for themselves formed their opinions early on.  They don't need, "See? See? I told you" type articles to help them along.

[Piazza31]

I bet Loria had the civil engineers break every code in the book to save a few bucks. 

This.

As if I needed another reason not to go back to that stadium.

speaking of how great the stadium is...

saw this on another forum the other day:

the Jackie Robinson memorial 42 in the outfield is like a sticker or something that's peeling off

They should remove that thing....other teams don't have his number up. Why can't a team that didn't exist even when he died not have it up. Especially when it's the only number celebrated.

[Piazza31]

Gonna be a lot more articles like this in the future.  Public opinion on ownership is way down so bashing them sells papers.  Had the team at least made the playoffs, then the early 2012 pre-season love fest would continue and the chest thumpers would still be thumping.  People that know how to think for themselves formed their opinions early on.  They don't need, "See? See? I told you" type articles to help them along.

The masses are sheep, awaiting their slaughter.

[Piazza31]

[/$642 million for ballpark and parking facility agreement cost the county $384 million, the Marlins $131 million, and the city $127 million, mostly for the stadium’s six garages. Yet the Marlins collect almost 100 percent of the revenue, including those coming from concessions, concerts and parking fees.

 

Why must all journalist twist or ignore facts that give people an informed opinion?

 

Reading that without knowledge of the facts says the Marlins do not pay rent or buy those parking spaces at $10 a pop regardless of them selling out.

The city built the Garages knowing they will have the tenants paying for them and they will recover some of the costs, along with having the Marlins pay for onsite off duty and on duty police officers (creating more gameday jobs).

Not to mention the city's impact of hotels and taxes of the tourists coming to see concerts/soccer/whatever they do in the park.

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It's what they do.

 

They're lazy. Loria is just a convenient punching bag. Cheap shots require no thinking or talent.

[EricWiener]

So we are mad there were no cost overruns?

[Dr Beinfest]

It's what they do.

 

They're lazy. Loria is just a convenient punching bag. Cheap shots require no thinking or talent.

 

They're cheap shots for sure, but cheap shots at Jeffrey Loria are okay.

[Beetle]

speaking of how great the stadium is...

saw this on another forum the other day:

the Jackie Robinson memorial 42 in the outfield is like a sticker or something that's peeling off

They should remove that thing....other teams don't have his number up. Why can't a team that didn't exist even when he died not have it up. Especially when it's the only number celebrated.

 

The Diamondbacks are farther removed from Jackie Robinson than us, and their #42 at Chase Field is much nicer; I believe it's even back-lit. See it here: Link

 

The Marlins', by comparison, is embarrasingly low rent. People should take more pride in what they do, no matter how big or small the job. Someone will always notice when you cut corners.

[Piazza31]

speaking of how great the stadium is...

saw this on another forum the other day:

the Jackie Robinson memorial 42 in the outfield is like a sticker or something that's peeling off

They should remove that thing....other teams don't have his number up. Why can't a team that didn't exist even when he died not have it up. Especially when it's the only number celebrated.

 

The Diamondbacks are farther removed from Jackie Robinson than us, and their #42 at Chase Field is much nicer; I believe it's even back-lit. See it here: Link

 

The Marlins', by comparison, is embarrasingly low rent. People should take more pride in what they do, no matter how big or small the job. Someone will always notice when you cut corners.

Check this out, you'll see the different ways it's done around MLB. Since we don't have a retired number we should reserve the 42 for when something can go alongside of it. Yes he transcended the game, but the way it's displayed at Marlins Park is like he's being ostracized all over again.

 

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